Ancestors
John Warren
1555-1613 · Nayland, Suffolk, England
Also recorded as John Warren the cardmaker
Born 1555, Nayland, Suffolk, England
Died 1613
Mother: John Warren of Corlie
Children include John
A cardmaker of Nayland in Suffolk, making the wire brushes used to comb wool, in a town that lived by the cloth trade. He was one of two brothers both christened John, the middle one, which is how his father's will kept them apart and why the Nayland Warrens are hard to follow.
He married Elizabeth Scarlett at Nayland on 4 October 1584, and their son John was christened the next August. Nine more children followed, and three of them were buried young. Elizabeth was buried in March 1603. He married a Rose, who died in 1610, and in April 1611 Rose Riddlesdale.
He was taxed sixteen pence on lands in the subsidy of 1611. On 27 March 1613 he made his will. He left his wife Rose twenty pounds, the goods and plate she had brought with her, and the parlor and chamber of his house for as long as she stayed a widow. His eldest son John got the mansion house in Fen Street with its barn, stable and garden. The other children got ten pounds apiece, and the poor of Nayland twenty shillings. The will was proved that November. His son John, baptised at Nayland in 1585, took a family to Watertown in 1630.
Parents
John Warren of Corlie (1525-1576)
Sources
ELIZABETH FRENCH, "Genealogical Research in England: Warren," in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, volume 64 (1910), worked from the Nayland and Wiston registers and the Suffolk wills; and ROBERT CHARLES ANDERSON, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, volume III (Boston, 1995), the sketch of John Warren, which adopts her line.
JOHN WARREN of Watertown was baptised at Nayland in Suffolk on 1 August 1585, and all seven of his children were baptised there, so the family crossed in 1630 already made. Bond's Watertown account, which rests on his will of 1667, names four children: John, Mary, Daniel and Elizabeth. See [[bond-watertown-genealogies-the-warrens]]. He appears in a presentment of 1629, the year before he left. Anderson notes that several of the Watertown planters came out of this one parish: John Firmin and Isaac Stearns as well as Warren, Nayland being a cloth town on the Stour.
HIS FATHER, JOHN WARREN, was a cardmaker of Nayland, a maker of the wire brushes used to comb wool, in a town that lived by cloth. He was the middle of two brothers both called John, which is how the pedigree distinguishes him and what makes a Nayland Warren hard to trace. He was taxed sixteen pence on lands in the subsidy of 8 James I, 1611, and was testator in 1613.
HIS GRANDFATHER, JOHN WARREN of Corlie in Nayland, was born about 1525. His will is dated 21 April 1576 and was proved on 5 June; he was buried on 23 April 1576, two days after dating it. He was three times married, and the mother of his son John is unnamed, so the generations above him attach through a woman whose name is lost.
HIS GREAT GRANDFATHER, ROBERT WARREN of Wiston, was born perhaps about 1485 and was testator in 1544; his will names his wife MARGARET, which is the whole of what survives of her. French allows an unnamed generation above Robert, offering that a blank Warren was perhaps the father of both Robert of Wiston and a Thomas Warren of Wiston who was testator in 1558. Perhaps is the word, and that generation is not claimed.
MARGARET, the emigrant's wife, has no maiden name in French's account and none in Anderson's: two authorities working the same registers eighty five years apart both leave it blank.
The line as given follows French's article and Anderson's sketch, and French's article is the authority for all of it. Elizabeth French, NEHGS Register (1910), on the Warrens of Nayland, with Anderson, The Great Migration Begins, vol III (archive.org greatmigrationbe0003ande)
Elizabeth French, "Genealogical Research in England: Warren," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 64 (October 1910), pages 348 to 355, with the pedigree drawn from them by J. Gardner Bartlett (archive.org newenglandhistor63wate). Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, volume III (Boston, 1995), pages 1932 to 1934, JOHN WARREN (archive.org greatmigrationbe0003ande).
Nayland baptisms: "Elizabeth, dau. of John Scarlett, 30 Aug. 1561." "John, son of John Warin, 1 Aug. 1585." Marriages: "John Warrin and Elizabeth Skarlett, 4 Oct. 1584." "John Warren and Roase Riddelsdie, 23 Apr. 1611." Burials: "Elizabeth, wife of John Warren, 27 Mar. 1602-3." "John Skarlett, householder, 19 Sept. 1614."
"The Will of John Waren of Nayland in the County of Suffolk, cardmaker, 27 Mar. 1613. To be buried in the parish churchyard of Nayland. To wife Rose 20 pounds, the household goods and plate she brought with her, my tenement where William Bawlden dwells, during her life, and during her widowhood the parlor and chamber in my now dwelling house. To son John and his lawful issue my mansion house where I now dwell, with the barn, stable and garden lying in Fen Street, excepting the aforesaid two rooms." Proved 4 November 1613 (P.C.C. Capell 98).
Anderson: "BIRTH: Baptized Nayland 1 August 1585, son of John and Elizabeth (Scarlett) Warren." "In the 1629 Bishop's Visitation of Nayland ... John Warren was the first in a list of seven men from that parish who were presented 'for not kneeling at the communion,' a common Puritan offense." "Examination of the originals of the Nayland registers reveals only one discrepancy."
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Cite: Heirology, "John Warren (1555-1613)", https://heirology.com/ancestors/john-warren-1555-1613-0505f4.